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knightzilla:
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FullMetal Alchemist 2003 is a bad adaptation…
…but a darn good Anime taken on its own terms. However, talking about how it’s “better” or “worse” than Brotherhood (y’all know who you are) is pointless when… neither was intended to be like or outdo the other.
Say the Manga is… ingredients for a meal, said meal being Brotherhood or 03.
03 utilizes some plot beats and storylines from the Manga but modifies upon them in order to create set up for the largely original plot that’s of its own making.
It knows what to keep, what to tweak and what to excise from something that will inevitably be different in tone as well as character evolution.
By contrast, Brotherhood intends to be more true to the Manga but not all of it. Various plot beats are retooled like the investigation of Liore are made the second adventure we see of the Elrics.
Some like the Youswell Mine and Yoki are skipped over with a passing mention before later being adapted later in a truncated adaptation.
Some are outright changed such as the Elrics and Winry learning of Hughes dying before Maria Ross’s accusation of such hits the papers. That is, with a later scene of them meeting Grace and Elicia over the matter.
This list goes on…
Though some find they haven’t found their sea legs at first, this adaptation shakes out to be one of the 2010s big gateway Anime titles. Either way, it’s a technically better adaptation of the original Manga by default.
03 didn’t adapt the Manga but with filler ala the Big Three of Shonen Jump. Rather it built a new story around the parts of the Manga it had to work with a went off. Probably one of the few Anime Original Endings that have stood the test of time really.
Now HOW those elements were handled for each version 03 had focused on can make for a good discussion at the very least. But neither version of FMA should be judged by what it isn’t and never was going to be.
It just… makes it hard to humor a comparison when one is clearly preferred over the other. Especially when some mostly amount to petty memes and potshots.
I know this saying is rightfully maligned but for this context? I don’t care who started it, somebody has to end it.
My issue with the comparisons is, aside from how they clearly are using their preference as a measuring stick for quality (words of wisdom for everyone, NEVER DO THIS), is how often it shows how little they really understand either adaptation, or the manga itself.
In the case of Fullmetal, this can lead to discourse where anything surrounding it is misrepresented, often with context removed when discussing certain subjects as well as failing to fully understand those topics and applicability, failing to see how some criticisms of one version can actually be applied to both series as a whole, and basically showing how they never really tried to genuinely engage with one or the other, and/or relied on a second or third hand retelling of either, and would rely on that retelling even when experiencing one or the other for themselves.
And unfortunately, the ones who would often provide that retelling (and start/prolong the whole damn mess), are often folks who would use their preference as a measuring stick, failed to actually engage or understand storytelling or anything involving either series genuinely, yet are seen as smart folks that don’t need to be called out either because of established reputations or charisma.
If you’re trying to elevate any piece of media, throwing another under the bus doesn’t help in your arguments, it makes you look like a petty moron.
Generally, I think one factor has been how Brotherhood became one of the 2010s gateway Anime and blew up fast here. Though you do get Manga vs. Brotherhood scuffles, many Anime fans of today owe their hypefixation on the first Anime of FMA they saw.
Thus them diving into the series’ history brings them to a previous series that throws them for a loop with how it veers off from the story that had them by the balls. Alchemy’s secret mechanics, the Hommunculi, Hoenheim, the general tone.
Some are like, “Eh, not my cuppa.” Others… take it as a slight on their family name. I don’t even need to mention specific examples at this point. Every fandom has one.
And this brings us to the 03 fans be they of today or of yesteryear.
Because I hadn’t gotten into FMA right away but had seen it around as this cool Anime that Adult Swim aired and became a ratings darling. FUNimation found their footing as an Anime distribution company and was moving past their script adaptation habits from Dragon Ball Z, learning to be more true to the original with some necessary localizations (Shin Chan notwithstanding).
It was Brotherhood before Brotherhood basically, a popular Anime that while very much not for kids also was accessible to teens who gravitated to what it presented.
Thus these two landmark Anime and their fandom would be a vartiable generation divide.
Not helped by Manga being more available than ever online, official or otherwise, and birthing these weirdo obsessed with how certain scenes are adapted not just in story but in exact artwork. My Hero Academia’s fandom is… infamous on Twitter. Even AniTwitter.
Yeeeeeeeah.
I would agree that nostalgia definitely plays a part, especially since you’re basically forcing yourself to wear rose-tinted glasses that make any addition that isn’t what you grew up with as a threat, and either makes you put what you did grow up with be put on a pedestal without being critical of that either, or you in being critical of either, you clearly show more favoritism and don’t approach either with the genuine sincerity that they deserve.
Though what makes it worse is when you try to pass on this sort of perspective to others, and basically deprive them of being able to actually engage a work on it’s own merits.
I actually found myself unironically enjoying Netflix’s Cowboy Bebop because I knew full well that what I’d be getting was not the Anime I had enjoyed back in High School. As such, a lot of it was hard to hate.
Even some of the most infamous lines made me smile. For all the complaints about Whedonisms, I felt they worked for the off-beat world they were presenting. Especially with how it showed that these were bounty hunters who’d seen some sh*t and have ways of keeping their head straight through it all in a Buddy Cop vibe.
So yeah. “Welcome to the ouch, Motherfuckers!”
God, Faye was such a treat… XD
Anyways, I find it hard to judge as an adaptation since it certainly takes elements from the original Anime and even starts out with a close enough remake of the first episode (with an opening scene inspired from Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door for a very effect establishing scene) before diverging.
Then we get elements inspired by the original but written to be their own thing largely. Heck, I find the “they’re just copy-pasting” to be hollow take when so much of it is very much blazing its own path. There’s also the end of the Season 1 that complicated the comparisons since how they’d play out is… unlikely to come about.
What this has to do with FMA is keeping perspective when judging the other. 03 fans shouldn’t expect what made their version jive with them to be in Brotherhood if they choose to engage. Vice versa for Brotherhood fans.
Yes, some elements may be better handled to you but largely because one is going for a different tone and set of themes the other wasn’t obligated to follow.